Andy Borowitz ---

Ahmadinejad Invites U.N. Inspectors to Search for Homosexuals
Permits Use of Advanced Gaydar

"Just days after asserting that there are no homosexuals in Iran, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad today invited United Nations inspectors into his country to search for homosexuals.

“We have nothing to hide,” Mr. Ahmadinejad said in a speech to the United Nations General Assembly. “You can search the entire country – even the airport bathrooms.”
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Republican Humor (prt. 27)

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What men do

I asked many friends to comment on a Popular Mechanics list of 25 Things Every Man Should Know How to Do.

Here are the answers I got. Some of you were more serious than others. Wait! Maybe they really all are serious.

ALICE - The only thing you need 'em for is to zip up the back of your dress.
I guess I'd say share a vacation and a good book. Just as women do, they need to make the time to do the things they know how to do.

ANONYMOUS 1- Lie. Especially to women. And the police.

ANONYMOUS 2- I can't do most of those things, but I can do some things not on that list but you wouldn't like to hear about that.

BILL FROM WNNCO - The obvious thing that every man must be able to do is to say "Yes Dear" with apparent sincerity and meaningful tonal inflection.

BINA - After all, I am only a woman!!! But never did assume that most men know everything! #4---Really??? #10---whatever THAT is! #19----- again, Really?--all men know this? #22-- not familiar with this, so don't know

FELIX - The only thing I can say is that I can do 13 of those things...2 of them VERY well...

IRENE - definitely approve of numbers: 4,6,13, 18, 20 and 24. I have selected these for special mention as they are things that need doing around here from time to time, but I don't really know how to do them. In addition, I have no interest in learning how to do them.

I would take out #19(clean a rifle). Substitute "Put dirty clothes into the basket, and not on the floor next to the basket" and #21(hook up an HDTV) and substitute "Dispense with insects and other creepy crawly creatures.".

IRISH MIKE - Seriously: "Change a tire" should be on that list!
Less seriously: Play and understand a football board. Fill out an NCAA Basketball Tourney Bracket Sheet. (Might be difficult for a U of M man).

PAM - Comfort a child, read a book, love a woman, be a role model for true masculinity.

PAT W - Change a light bulb. And disagree nicely.

SPARTY - Some of them I don't understand - the necessity of knowing how to clean a bolt-action rifle, for example. Does that imply that every man should know how to shoot a bolt-action rifle? What about lever-action rifles? Semi-automatics? Assault rifles? Why shouldn't every man know how to clean a revolver? If it's important for every man to know how to fillet a fish why isn't it important for every man to know how to dress a deer?

The list seems to be based on a traditional view of men - Seems to me every man should also know how to change a diaper, use a broiler, read a recipe, change the bag on a vacuum sweeper, etc., etc.

BUD - I used to know how to do several things, but I have mostly forgotten. I'm incompetent at almost everything now. I can't even change a damn light bulb.

Women's World Cup

The order of finish:

1. Gold Germany

2. Silver Brazil

3. Bronze USA

--wacko afterthought --

Another possiblity for Wacko of the Week could have been the American taxpayer because:

"The war is costing $720 million a day or $500,000 a minute, according to the group's [American Friends Service Committee] analysis of the work of Nobel Prize-winning economist Joseph E. Stiglitz and Harvard public finance lecturer Linda J. Bilmes.

The estimates made by the group, which opposes the conflict, include not only the immediate costs of war but also ongoing factors such as long-term health care for veterans, interest on debt and replacement of military hardware. MORE HERE

Wacko of the Week -- 09/29/07

MOUTH OVER MUTTER


BILL O'REILLY of
Fox Entertainment
News Org.,



For getting himself into a 'verbal pissing match' with virtually the entire black culture in America (and it's millions of assorted allies) about a perfectly nonsensical topic that he leapt into without looking and then hadn't the ingenuity or courage to climb out of gracefully.

He said some amazingly patronizing things about black people, how they eat and how they behave in restaurants. This he meant to be complimentary, for God's sake!

When you're used to shooting from the lip and you get paid for off-the-cuff remarks about a hundred topics daily, you might make a blunder. Especially if you're a professional, congenital and practiced pompous gasbag.

So, if Bill is NOT a racist as he claims, and if he did NOT mean to say condescending things, and if he really isn't subconsciously boorish, then what should he have done to patch things up?

A bad choice would be to claim that he was being smeared, that he did not say what video tape shows he said, that he was taken out of context when he wasn't, and that the attack on him was orchestrated by his competitors. Yadda-yadda-yadda. BUT, that's the choice he made.

Bill: You're a blowhard worse than me, and you're most definitely a serial idiot. So, buster, we proudly name you WACKO OF THE WEEK.
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NOTES:
1. This was a very bad week for our selection committee, because there were so very many excellent nominees for the position. I mean, Ahmaddinkwad came to our country and practically begged for the honor of being Wacko of the Week.

2.And then there was Bush talking about the welfare of "childrens" all the while he announced his plan to veto health care for them. And promoting the candidacy of Hillary Clinton. And a few other things.

3. And this guy, who The Daily Tribune identified as Jason Paul Gonzalez (absolutely no relation to anyone we know) CLICK FOR STORY
who is MOST DEFINITELY a sentimental favorite. He is a teenager who "heard" that the lady across the street was a prostitute, so he got a snoot full of alcohol, crawled through her window and fell asleep naked in her bed awaiting her arrival home. Thus posed, he was shaken into awareness by the police when the lady turned out to be not interested.

In front of a judge, he admits it all. Ahh, the impulsiveness of horny youth!
Also, here: CLICK

for the teachers

Dave Coverly SPEED BUMP
More Dave Coverly HERE

Gold Stars awarded

For solving the Tuesday Quiz:

SPARTY - who got the first three right.

ALICE - she got the remaining two right, and she knew what they have in common.

They were:
1. Plymouth
2. Rambler
3. DeSoto
4. Studebaker
5. Oldsmobile

All are automobile models/brands that are no longer made.

Dubya to the risk-ya (uhh--rescue)

The airline industry in America is a mess. However, airline executives are very well paid. As you know, the American business management model is this: If you screw up an industry, pay the bosses more money.

But help is at hand. The man who brought you New Orleans, Baghdad, Tora Bora, and the Patriot Act is going to solve the airline crisis.

"We've got a problem. We understand there's a problem and we're going to address the problem," Bush said after meeting Transportation Secretary Mary Peters in the Oval Office.
CLICK FOR STORY

COMMENT: I know y'all're greatly comforted to know this. But, if I was ya'll, I'd plan on walking.

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*Jim Unger HERMAN CLICK

For What it's Worth

New Species?

Bravo!

ONE FEDERAL JUDGE DEFIES BUSH GOVERNMENT ABUSES


PORTLAND, Ore. [Associated Press] - A federal judge issued a stern rebuke of a key White House antiterror law, striking down as unconstitutional two pillars of the USA Patriot Act.

U.S. District Judge Ann Aiken ruled Wednesday that using the act to authorize secret searches and wiretapping to gather criminal evidence -- instead of intelligence gathering -- violates the constitutional protection against unreasonable searches and seizures.

"For over 200 years, this nation has adhered to the rule of law -- with unparalleled success. A shift to a nation based on extra-constitutional authority is prohibited, as well as ill-advised," Aiken wrote.

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COMMENT: Although many people eventually escape punishment, the Constitution seeks to protect the rights of the guilty and the innocent alike. More and more, it appears that the innocent are caught in the nets of punishment; where the guilty cannot be found, the innocent will serve! Electronic surveillance being what it is, the most unremarkable slip can become a matter of public scrutiny and condemnation. To hit the news shows, only a piece of tape or a cell phone picture is needed to magnify the small into the notorious.

This was the case with Brandon Mayfield, the man charged under the Patriot Act. The fact that he had done nothing wrong was lost in an FBI mistake and a blizzard of phony publicity. The government had to pay $2 million to him for those errors.

Now, the court has seen fit to tell the government to stop doing what it has been doing.

sad loss in China

Brazil 4, US 0

The US Women's Soccer Team was badly beaten by Brazil in the semifinal match of the Women's World Cup. The team did not play well. There had been unhappy signs of a decline in the team's level of play in earlier matches, and Brazil capitalized on the Americans sloppy play.

This has been a team of great character and skill and has been a great joy to watch. We may not see another team this exciting again.

Oh, For Cryin' Out Loud

What they're showing in Milan at the fashion show.



Would you want your woman wearing this?

just for ladies

Designed just for women:


Available now,
pretty pink Taser guns,
easy to carry in purses or tucked
discreetly in your bra.
Shouldn't every woman have one? The
Second Amendment allows it!
CLICK HERE

CLICK HERE to see Jon Stewart make fun of the candidates who spoke to the National Rifle Association.

For What it's Worth

Kids and Cars
Comments

There are two items in the news the last couple of days that are health-care related and tell us something very mean about ourselves.

One of the items concerns the struggle between the unions and the auto companies over the future of health care plans agreed to and managed (perhaps managed very badly) by the companies. The other is the debate in Congress over extending national health care programs for more children. Bush has promised to veto it if it is passed.

Everyone understands that US companies, especially in the auto industry, are at a profound disadvantage when competing with other advanced nations, because they have to absorb costs of very expensive health care coverage for their workers. In most other nations, health care is considered a social obligation which society pays for.

In this country, we have gladly assumed the high costs of policing the world, but not the costs of creating and running a competent national health care system. A bill of $100 billion or $200 billion for the Iraq "Mission" is nothing to Americans. They complain not at all. But to invest that amount of money into providing for the care of our own citizens is unthinkable.

So, unions demand it of their employers and now we're in a real mess.

Maybe we need to rethink our priorities.

They're Coming to Take Me Away (File #6)

Kentucky's Alcoholic Beverage Control Director Faces DUI Charge After Being Pulled Over

The Associated Press
LOUISVILLE, Ky.


The executive director of the state's Alcoholic Beverage Control faces a drunken driving charge after he was arrested during a traffic stop.

Chris Lilly was pulled over Saturday on U.S. 27 outside Nicholasville because his Ford Explorer was missing a headlight, and because he was weaving and driving slowly, police said.

Police said Lilly smelled of alcohol, lost his balance during a sobriety test and recorded a Breathalyzer reading of 0.181. The legal limit is 0.08.

Tuesday Evening Quiz 09/25/07

Here are some product Logos. Can you identify them? What do they all have in common?
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5.

Feakish person undergoes conversion in character

TWO NOTES
PROVING THE
POSSIBILITY OF
REFORM



NOTE 1:

I fainted and struck my head upon the footstool, oh agony, when I heard the bombastard in the White House say something I totally agree with.

This has caused me lose sleep, quiver nervously, and question all my basic assumptions (Is there a God? Is chocolate ice cream really better than strawberry?)

He said, about AchImajerk, who spoke at Columbia: "It's good to show the world that we have free speech in our country."

Holy Cow! Am I hallucinating?

NOTE 2:

With speech not reminiscent of rhetorical nicities, the same guy in the White House said: "I feel strongly that there ought to be fair justice." (Washington, D.C., Sept. 20, 2007.) Zing! Not just justice, but fair justice.

I have always been convinced that the last thing this person ever considered was fairness. And if there was any justice in his world, he would be back home in Texas contemplating the will of the American voters and stoking up his crack pipe -- as in the good old days.

2nd Mag-Lev to be built

GERMANY TO BUILD MAG-LEV RAILROAD
Tuesday, 25 September 2007,
BBC

"Germany has come up with the funds to launch its first magnetic levitation - or maglev - rail service.The state of Bavaria is to build the high-speed railway line from Munich city centre to its airport, making it Europe's first commercial track.

Maglev trains use electric-powered magnets that enable them to float above their tracks, allowing for much faster speeds than traditional rail services.

The 1.85bn-euro ($2.6bn; £1.3bn) project had faced financing problems.

However, the Bavarian state government said it had signed an agreement with rail operator Deutsche Bahn and industrial consortium Transrapid that includes the developers of the train - Siemens and ThyssenKrupp."
BBC STORY HERE
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This is the only other Mag-Lev train operating in the world. It runs from city center, Shanghai China, to the airport. It can travel at 310 mph.

Meanwhile, in the U.S. our trains travel too slowly on old rails with dangerous crossings. (Imagine airports with highways crossing them and gates that go up to stop traffic whenever a plane is coming in.)

*Cox and Forkum CLICK

Monday morning friends report.

What some friends and relatives are thinking, saying, emailing or are concerned with.


PAT W - is wrestling with a major decision about property. If you have any extra money, you could send it to her. That would help.

MIKE the Irishman (or IRISH MIKE) - Says that he has only been retired for a few weeks, and already he can't think of his old job at all. He's made "a clean break." Now he's trying to figure out how to expand his days so that he can sqeeze more into them. For example, he's trying out for a rowing team. Ya, really!

PAM - is a new friend of BIRCHES. She has a daughter who's on a spending freeze campaign. They're trying to get by with the least possible indulgences, to see how much they can save in a year. Here is the blog site for that effort. It is very entertaining: byebyebuy.blogspot.com or CLICK

DASHMANN - says there should be a symbol, like the Support the Troops ribbons on so many cars, which shows that a person does support the troops but oppose the war. So we went looking and found that this is in use.
CLICK

ALICE - sends more and more citations to articles about "Blackwater," the group of mercenaries that our government hired for special duties in Iraq. This past week, they've been accused of atrocities against innocent civilians in Iraq. In fact, the Iraqi government has ordered them all out of their country, a nice gesture since that government can't even patrol its own streets. Remember, Alice brought up this group weeks ago and now she can say, "I told you!" CLICK

SPARTY - in addition to being ecstatic about his team's perfect record (this week, defeating Notre Dame), he has taken notice that this is the 40th Anniversary of the fall when the Bridgeport teachers went out on strike and shut down the schools for three weeks. The Saginaw News has also taken notice and been publishing items in Bygone Days.

SCOT - bemoans the fact that the community recreation soccer team he plays on has not won a game, but yesterday they lost by only a small margin. Maybe things are looking up?

MIKE CARROLL almost from Carrollton - says this is a picture of the police up at Sault Ste. Marie. At least one of our people, Steve, knows that they have better transportation than that.


DIG S - If you want to know how your Senators voted on restoring Habeas Corpus, check this website: CLICK

For What It's Worth

FWIW: This is my opinion on the subject of Columbia University's speakers:

In this country, universities are allowed to conduct open forums for the expression of ideas. In this role as guardians of knowledge, they should be free from governmental interference. People who aren't nice can be included.

Therefore, I'm quite happy they're having the despot of Iran appear before American students to get grilled. Besides, Ahmadinejerk can be a very friendly guy, we've heard.

Go ahead and disagree with me.

Republican Humor (prt. 26)

This joke was provided by several people. It's apparently making its rounds on the internet. In case you didn't see this clever story, here it is! (You need to know that Jennifer Granholm was born in Canada.)

A Japanese doctor says, "Medicine in my country is so advanced that we can take a kidney out of one man, put it in another, and have him out looking for work in six weeks."

A German doctor says, "That is nothing. We can take a lung out of one person, put it in another, and have him out looking for work in four weeks."

A British doctor says, "In my country medicine is so advanced that we can take half a heart out of one person, put it in another, and have both of them out looking for work in two weeks."

The Canadian doctor, not to be outdone, interjected, "You guys are way behind. We took a woman with no brains, sent her to Michigan where she became Governor, and now half the state is out looking for work."

Wacko of the Week -- 09/22/07

THE CHICAGO VICE SQUAD

for the wackiest
prostitution sting
ever conceived.

This week, all charges against Erasmo Palacios were dropped by the City of Chicago. He had been arrested in front of his family while sitting in a car. He was approached by a police undercover woman who suggested he should have sex with her. When he laughed, he was arrested while his wife and daughter screamed in disbelief.

This week, also, Palacios has decided to sue the police department. Meanwhile, the cops are holding the family car for ransom, saying they won't release it until the Palacioses pay the towing fees. I wonder how this will turn out.

You can read the story: HERE

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Also in the running this week:
CARL WAGNER of Carbondale, Pennsylvania, who attempted to rob a store wearing nothing but a hat. His naked effort was prompted, he said, by boredom. In jail, he may learn a whole new meaning of the word "boring."
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JESSE JACKSON for trying to chase Barack Obama out of the black race. I mean, this was just plain stupid!

GOLD STARS

GOLD STARS for Alice, greenpagan, and Sparty for their right answers on this week's Tuesday Quiz. Thanks to all the people who joined in the effort.

The answers were :
1. Elizabeth Taylor
2. Tallulah Bankhead
3. Mercedes McCambridge
4. Brigitte Bardot

U.S. Women in China

The U.S. Women's Soccer Team, after a stuttering and clumsy start, settled in to defeat England 3-0 in the quarter-finals in China this morning. All the goals were scored in the second half when the Americans finally gained control of the game.

The U.S. is still favored to win the Women's World Cup, but there are tough teams ahead.

Goals were scored by Abby Wambach, Kristine Lilly and Shannon Boxx.

The semi-final game will not be until next Thursday. Meanwhile, Australia will play Brazil tomorrow morning in another quarter-final game.

Tuesday Quiz clues (now updated)

YEAH! Solved by "Greenpagan" --

is Tallulah Bankhead


and for #3

The initials of her two names are the same.

Here is a later picture of her:

ANOTHE$R UPDATE:
9/22: YEAH
All have been identified! The last one is MERCEDES MCCAMBRIDGE

Honor Among knaves

This
might make
you sick....




Mattel Apologizes to China Over Recalls
Associated Press
September 21, 2007

BEIJING - U.S.-based toy giant Mattel Inc. issued an extraordinary apology to China on Friday over the recall of Chinese-made toys, taking the blame for design flaws and saying it had recalled more lead-tainted toys than justified.

The gesture by Thomas A. Debrowski, Mattel's executive vice president for worldwide operations, came in a meeting with Chinese product safety chief Li Changjiang, at which Li upbraided the company for maintaining weak safety controls.

"Our reputation has been damaged lately by these recalls," Debrowski told Li in a meeting at Li's office at which reporters were allowed to be present.

"And Mattel takes full responsibility for these recalls and apologizes personally to you, the Chinese people, and all of our customers who received the toys," Debrowski said.

the whelp yelps

The Bastard who styled himself "President" has decided to attack the organization which insulted his general.

When MoveOn.org (foolishly, in my opinion ) chose to imply that General Petraeus might be "General Betray Us" they attacked the man that Bush sent forward to take the flak for him. The real culprit behind the mess in Iraq is not the General, but the "Decider" who put him there, and yes, we the people, who let this all happen.

But, while the verbal missiles were falling around the General in Congress, Mr. Bush was away at his ranch or hiding in his closet or something. Where the hell was he when his man was under fire? Maybe, like on 9/11, he was hiding at an air base somewhere.

Now this Bushman sallies forth when the shooting has died down and fires a vagrant shot into free speech by implying that the organization is disloyal for stating its opinion. What a scoundrel!

Frankly, I will die some day still in contempt of this person. If American democracy survivers him at all, it will be a tribute to people like General Petraeus and also MoveOn.org, who both have the courage to practice a level of fundamentally fair discourse.

Goodbye Shakey Jake Woods

Street Musician seen around Saginaw for years, then in Ann Arbor since 1974. He was 82.

Note: that Tuesday quiz is not solved

1. Is Elizabeth Taylor

2. Is NOT Marlene Dietrich

3 Is NOT Rita Hayworth

4. Is Brigitte Bardot

Thursday Morning Smile-Maker (15)

RED ALERT Hide your women, lock up your children!!!!!

ORENTHAL SPRUNG FROM JAIL
$125,000 paid for his freedom

I told you they'd let him go!

..is that the light at the end of our tunnel?

Click on cartoon to make it larger
Christo cartoons available here: CLICK

A light Through the Leaves

An Australian Comment on the Iraq War

(Thanks to Irene from Australia)


"I have been horrified the Government so blithely involved us in the illegal invasion of Iraq, sanctioning the death of many thousands of innocent bystanders. Many Australians protested, multitudes marched and the majority made their opposition clear. We were ignored and derided. I ask today, whose position has been vindicated? It gives me no pleasure to say we told you so. As many anticipated, Iraq is at a stalemate. The war shows no sign of diminishing in intensity. The PM's 'months, not years' promise looks as foolish as Bush's 'mission accomplished' [on May 1, 2003]. Tens, perhaps hundreds, of thousands have died. Bloody suicide bombings are daily events. More than a million people have been displaced within Iraq. Double that number fled to neighbouring countries. I say to the Prime Minister, to his cabinet and to his members: 'You were wrong. Appallingly, brutally wrong.' "
--- Carmen Lawrence, Member of Parliament
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10 most polluted places

The Most Polluted Places in the World
[National Geographic ]
CLICK FOR STORY



Sumgayit, Azerbaijan;
Linfen, China;
Sukinda, India;
Vapin, India;
La Oroya, Peru;
Dzerzhinsk, Russia;
Noril'sk, Russia;
Chernobyl, Ukraine;
Kabwe, Russia;
Tianying, China

Tuesday Evening Quiz 09/18/07

Who are these Silver Screen
"Vamps?"
(noun: seductive woman who uses her sex appeal to exploit men)

lazy win

In a lackadaisical effort, the American Women's soccer team defeated Nigeria 1-0 and gained a chance to play in the Women's National Cup quarterfinals. That game will be early Saturday morning (American time) against England.

In fairness, the game was played in the rain, often in heavy downpours, as a typhoon approached the city of Shanghai.

plain and clear

No comment; the thing speaks for itself ....

Record number of police shot in 2007
Sept. 17, 2007 at 2:50 PM
UPI

WASHINGTON, Sept. 17 (UPI) -- A Washington-based group reported a 59 percent increase in the number of U.S. police officers shot to death this year.

Goodbye Brett Somers

MATCHLESS

O.J. says S * * *

On the news today, I heard tape recordings of things Orenthal J. said as he was robbing that hotel room. I can't believe that a hero like this man Orenthal, whom I've deeply admired ever since he got away with murder, could be heard on a tape recording saying

S * * *

and

Motherf * * * * * g

and other nasty words.

Does he have no sense of his duties as a role model? What would his children think if they heard him talk like that? Suppose everyone started talking like that? Mothers will be saying, "Don't talk like that! Do you want to grow up like Simpson running around cutting people's heads off?"

Before they let him go this time, I believe he should be ordered to apologize, and he should have his mouth washed out with s * * *.
THAT ROTTEN MOUTH

Update

actual photo of OJ Simpson--
the family resemblance
to Homer is obvious


CONFESSION
Here's a big sin I have to admit.
I threw a quite childish fit,
When I saw on my Sony
That blasphemous phony
Filling the airwaves with shit.
(Bad Bud)

Monday morning friends report.

What some friends and family are thinking about, doing, e-mailing, or saying recently.
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ALICE - asks that we take notice of the plight of the large gorillas. They are more endangered than ever, between the murder of them and the outbreak of Ebola.
CLICK FOR STORY

We should point out that gorillas are among our closest relatives, that Alice is a professional genealogist, and that she is saying this is a picture of her Uncle Ishmael.

If you would like to contribute to the cause of saving the gorillas, you can join the effort DIAN FOSSEY GORILLA FUND or make a contribution, or even adopt a gorilla.
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BILL from WNNCO - says that his American flag has been stolen from in front of his house. He replaced it and tried to make it more secure, but the second one was stolen as well. He believes there is a terrorist cell operating here.
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DASHMANN- related the story of a couple of high school football players from Flint Southwestern Academy who were released from jail in order to play ball. He thinks this should not be allowed, and in fact, after the outcry, the school has decided not to allow it --- any more.

You can read about it DETROIT FREE PRESS ARTICLE or FLINT ARTICLE
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MARSHA - Her team, South Carolina, has won all its games so far. Not only that, Carolina's Mascot, "COCKY", is in the running for the Best Mascot in the country. No Michigan team is in the running, so she would like you all to go vote for her mascot HERE
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BILL from WNNCO - sent this picture of the largest diesel engine being built in Japan. It is 89 feet long and produces 109,00 horse power. He is planning to buy one and "shoehorn" it into his work van. He'll be the baddest ass on Gratiot Road.

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SCOT - is sailing along with a new modem. His service is provided by a satellite company that began shutting off his old modem's functions and forced him into a new hookup. This is aggravating since he makes his living online.

But the real news about SCOT is that he is chuckling real loud because he's always said that the Iraq War was nothing but an oil war, and now Alan Greenspan agrees with him!

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PETRAEUS/BETRAY US update:

Among BIRCHES contributors, there didn't seem to be support for either the "Betray Us" ad in the papers, or for the General himself. In fact, most people had nothing at all to say about it. These are the comments I got back:

BILL - "MoveOn.org is no different than other political organizations or directed media such as Fox or the Washington Post. They publish comments that are directed to their readers and do not necessarily give an equitable analysis of situations. They are geared to throw raw meat to lions, i.e., people that believe whatever is stated or printed even when they know it is not correct.

"The military community is comparably structured as the political community in that this is their religion and they worship it accordingly, regardless of whether reasonable or not. General Petraeus is going to support the action while he is active as a commander. He must do so as it is his "duty". What idiot would think that the General would come back and state that the war is hopeless and that we should get out immediately. This action would result in his removal from leadership and jeopardize any plans he has to get his men safely out of this mess or on a more fantasy based thought, WIN....whatever that would be."


DASHMANN - “Lies, damn lies. ----statistics”

"General Petraeus is another good soldier like Colon Powell. He realizes what he has to do to keep his job. He never criticized the Bush administration and danced all around Congress' questions to present the best possible face to the war. It was very painful to see him struggle with balancing the truth and the realities of the Iraq atrocity."

SPARTY - "This play on his name was used by either Keith Olberman or Jon Stewart weeks ago."

(So, MoveOn didn't make it up.)

STEVE - "Sounds like a buncha that edu-speak. Sounds like uppity folks way of trying to bring down 'merica and help the terrorists. It's September 11!!! have you forgotten when them Iraqi, rag heads crashed planes into them buildins'? "